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“Old” Kpop Groups Causing a Pileup in the Kpop Conveyor Belt

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SHINee could never become the top boy group as long as Suju is still active, and f(x) could never become the top girl group as long as SNSD is still active. And by the time their sunbae artists retire, SHINee and f(x) would have been pushed aside by other groups such as B2ST or Sistar//T-ara who are the main focus of their companies and are getting far more investment and time than SHINee/f(x). Do you agree?

I agree with the first part of the statement, not so much with the second part.

I’m trying to think of a counterexample for any other company where a hoobae group out-did a sunbae group while they were both still actively promoting but I’m really struggling. They either left their companies, split or were thrown out before their hoobaes took over.

That said, CSJH were SM’s only female group and were still technically active (though they were left to their own devices in Japan) while SNSD surged ahead.

Hmm… the thing about the entertainment industry is that it’s all about momentum. We saw with the Wonder Girls, once you lose that huge momentum, you struggle to regain the same footing if that is even posible at all.

As such, older groups tend to get bigger and bigger in terms of profitability and thus more investment-worthy for the entertainment agencies. Even if the entertainment companies had unlimited resources, they would continue to pour as much as possible into their highest earners (to the physical limit where no more profit is achievable) before they begin proportionately significant investment in the junior groups.

The problem for the junior groups here is that SHINee and f(x) should be the headline groups for SM already. The fact that SNSD and SuJu are still active is causing a big pileup in the regular conveyor belt of K-Pop groups being manufactured bt the agencies.

By all rights in historic standards, Super Junior should be dead already and SNSD should be dead in the next fifteen months. Whether split up, disbanded or doing other things, they should not be this active this late in their career. Yet with growing stability in the industry and with the longevity offered with growing markets internationally, 5-6 years isn’t “late” for these groups any more… in fact (for SNSD for certain), their profitability is actually continuing to rise, indicating that they are still in the growth period of their product cycle despite them being pensioners in K-Pop group terms.

We have a curious situation like in the British Royal Family. The Queen is so old that her son, Prince Charles, is an old man himself and her grandson is already balding and if the Queen’s Mother was anything to go by, she doesn’t look like she’ll be knocking on the Pearly Gates any time soon. So will the old man ever get a chance to be Charles III and if he does, will he be on the throne for long?

That’s why In my opinion, it isn’t ELF that should be feaing EXO but Shawol. Super Junior will run its course (breaking up or becoming an ajusshi group like Shinhwa) before EXO even have time to gain significant traction and by then, SHINee will be stuck in the middle and could be left fighting to remain the top idol group.

At the same time, B2ST and Sistar/T-ara may be the focus of attention of their own agencies but they’re still not outperforming your industry-wide sunbae groups. If SHINee and f(x) are still keeping up with them without being the focus of the company’s attention, what would they be like if they were?

What would happen if SHINee and f(x) were given the first pick in songs, choreography, budget and promotional material?

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    • #KPop
    • #SM Entertainment
    • #SHINee
    • #f(x)
    • #BEAST
    • #SISTAR
    • #T-Ara
    • #Super Junior
    • #EXO
    • #SNSD
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My 2011 30 Best Kpop Songs Part 3 of 3 (#1-10)

Happy New Year.  Sorry for the delay in posting this, the holiday got in the way.  If you haven’t read, this post is a continuation to:

Part 1(#21-30): http://heartofthe9.tumblr.com/post/14909335183/my-2011-30-best-kpop-songs-part-1-of-3-21-30

Part 2(#11-20): http://heartofthe9.tumblr.com/post/14961647263/my-2011-30-best-kpop-songs-part-2-of-3-11-20

 

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    • #D-NA
    • #The Boss
    • #Wonder Girls
    • #INFINITE
    • #Miss A
    • #SNSD
    • #Girls' Generation
    • #BEAST
    • #TVXQ
    • #Tohoshinki
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My 2011 30 Best Kpop Songs Part 1 of 3 (#21-30)

As we conclude the year, I would like to share with you some of the best songs of 2011 in my opinion, as a way of reflecting on a great year in KPop.  Music is what drew me into KPop in the first place, I care a lot about music and I wish to see KPop continue to be successful in the future from a musical point of view.  I approached this from the standpoint of, “If I’m going to recommend 30 songs to someone new to Kpop, which ones would I pick?”
 
There weren’t many rules for my consideration, as long as it’s a song released by a Korean artist in the past year, regardless of the language or country it was released in, it will be considered.  I didn’t restrict how many songs an artist can have on my list, IMO a good song is a good song.  However I did not consider old songs remade into another language in 2011, I personally don’t count those as “new” songs.
 
My time, knowledge, and resources are limited so you won’t see me covering every corner, genre, and artist in Kpop, so I apologize in advance if you see glaring omissions, I am only human.  Keep in mind that I’m not a professional critic or writer, and I do not have any training in music, so this list is only my unprofessional opinion and I created it solely on my own terms.  I tried my best to be fair, critical and as inclusive as possible, and I do not discriminate songs from artists I don’t like or don’t follow extensively, because to me, a good song is a good song no matter who made it.  There are many great and worthy songs that I could not include on my list, but every song on this list are chosen after careful consideration, they are all excellent in their own ways and the rankings do not necessary mean one is “better” than the other, they more or less reflect my bias instead of true technical and production merit.
 
Please do keep an open mind, it’s perfectly fine to disagree with me, I welcome your opinion and encourage discussion around the topic of music for those who is a little more serious about the music of Kpop.  Please, no fanwars, that I am not interested in.

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    • #2NE1
    • #4MINUTE
    • #BEAST
    • #BIGBANG
    • #F(X)
    • #GD&TOP
    • #KARA
    • #SHINEE
    • #SISTAR19
    • #T-ARA
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